Overseas Filipino Workers (OFW) Advice Corner
PANAWAGAN
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Tungkol sa mga Illegal Recruitment o Recruitment Agency
Asked
on 30 Oct 2004 01:27 am
Subject: Normal ba sa isang manning agency na maningil sa
applicante ng processing fee and fare back and fort for a sailor?
in http://www.ofw-connect.com/OFWForum/viewtopic.php?t=244
"Normal ba sa isang manning agency na maningil sa applicante
ng processing fee and fare back and fort for a sailor? either passenger
or cargo ship? Pero ang sabi ng POEA sa no. 5 of 10 way to avoid illegal
recruitment "DO NOT PAY MORE THAN ALLOWED PLACEMENT FEE. iT SHOULD
BE EQUIVALENT TO ONE MONTH SALARY, EXCLUSIVE FOR DOCUMENTATION AND
PROCESSING COST. AND THE AGENCY HAVE GOOD IN RECORD AS WHAT I READ
THE STATUS IN POEA. guys i need your opinion and i hope poea read
this message. - Guest"
Answer 1 -
Pag sinisingil ka nila ng FARE, ibig sabihin wala ka pang JOB ORDER...kasi
kung meron na, ang employer mo ang dapat na gumastos ng iyong pamasahe
paalis sa Pilipinas at sa pag-uwi. Kaya ka siguro sinisingil ng agency
ay baka, di nga sigurado ang trabaho para kung sakaling umuwi ka ay
meron silang ibibigay na pamasahe mo which is yung ngang ibibigay
mo. At saka hindi sila gagastos para sa'yo dahil ikaw ang gagastos
ng pamasahe mo paalis . Yung one month value na salary mo, yun lang
talaga ang dapat na bayaran mo as processing, hindi dapat kasama doon
ang pamasahe etc dahil nga ang employer dapat ang gagastos noon, yan
ang pag-kakaalam ko - Guest"
Asked
on 28 Oct 2004 08:24 pm
Post subject: MAGANDA BA ANG BUHAY OFW SA MALAYSIA ?
http://www.ofw-connect.com/OFWForum/viewtopic.php?t=243
"NAG AAPLAY AKO SA MALAYSIA AS FACTORY ,NAKAGASTOS AKO ABOUT
60,000 SA INAPPLAYAN KONG AGENCY MALAKI BA TALAGA ANG PLACEMENT FEE
SA MALAYSIA-
Guest Stranger"
Answer 1 -
parang sobrang mahal yata ng placement fee, baka overcharging sila
ha? kung ang susuwelduhin mo ay about Php60,000 din per month, yes
it is just right pero kung hindi naman, eh na-illegal ka yata, pwera
na lang kung meron pa silang ibang bagay na naitulong sa'yo like pag-lakad
ng passport, mo kung kasama doon ang ticket mo (pero ticket should
shoulder by the employer yan), etc etc...pero sa palagay ko kahit
nilakad pa mga passport mo, nbi etc, di ka gagastos ng 60,000,
so, kwentahin ang buwanang sweldo, yun lang dapat bayad mo sa placement
fee.
yes, maganda sa Malaysia pero walang sumasahod doon na Php60,000
per month for factory workers. - Guess Me
Asked
on 01 Oct 2004 09:53 am
Post subject: migrate to canada
http://www.ofw-connect.com/OFWForum/viewtopic.php?t=186
"Good day! I would like to ask lang po if anyone
here knows or can recommend a reliable agency or consulting services
on how to migrate to canada. I'm planning to migrate with my family.
Hoping that you could help me. Thank you! - JC"
Answer 1 -
hi, Actually, you don't need to seek consultants help if the required
documents are all complete. Visit the Canadian
Immigration website first and read the required papers for migration,if
it's Skilled Migration, Family or Business migration. address is www.cic.gc.ca
then go to SkilledWorkers menu link.
You need to find the country on where you are currently residing
or where you want to send your application. So, kung nasa Pinas ka,
read the required documents by Canada Embassy in Phils. Puwede mo
ring malaman kaagad kung makakapasa ka o hindi kasi meron sa website
nila ang tinatawag na Points test.
Madali lang mag-send ng application basta't kumpletuhin lang ang
required papers and pay the application fee. Make sure, authenticated
or genuine ang mga documents kasi kung mga fake yan, it can be traced
by the canada immigrant officers lalo na sa Phils medyo mahigpit sila
kaya matagal ang processo.
And again, hindi mo na kailangan pang mag-hire ng consultants dahil
maaksaya lang pera mo, kesa mag-bayad ka ng mahal, gamitin mo na lang
as show money (pocket money). Kalimitan ang mga nag-hi-hire lang ng
consultant ay yung mga may problema, Kasi nakakatulong sila kung minsan.
Consultants is like a recruitment agency. Just assisting you but not
actually giving you big chance to make your application approve. Goodluck!"
- Concerned
Asked
on 01 Oct 2004 05:36 pm
Post subject: Anong pwedeng gawin kapag bigla kng pinauwi?
in http://www.ofw-connect.com/OFWForum/viewtopic.php?t=187
"Mayroon kasi akong ksama dati sa taiwan na humihingi ng tulong
kc kaaalis lng nya ulit pabalik sa taiwan pero ibang company at sa
taipei na. Ang problema pinag-oovertime sila pero d binabayaran ng
pera kundi kapalit ay day-off ang pagkakaalam ko kasi kapag ganun
bawal, kaso d sila pwedeng magreklamo dahil pagiinitan sila ng company,
broker at agency. Sa ngayon nga pinauwi ang isang ksamahan nya ng
wala man lang nauwing sahod tapos inutang pa ang pang-placement na
P70,000 samantalang ang nilagay ng agency sa resibo ay nsa P26,000+
kapalit ng ibinayad nyang P70,000 hindi b malaking panloloko yan at
bkit pinapayagan ng gobyerno ang mga ganung klaseng gawain, imposibleng
d nila alam. ngayon agn tanong ko may makukuha ba ang isang OFW kung
sakaling mapauwi sya dahil pinalabas na mabagal sya sa trabaho?MAibabalik
b sa kanya ang placement nya kahit wla pa syang isang buwan na nagtatrabaho?
At ano pa ang pwedeng gawin para matulungan ang iba pang OFW na may
mga ganung kaso? - Seagull_12"
Answer 1 -
Ang saklap naman ng kapalaran ng kaibigan mo, ang alam ko lahat yan
ay ireklamo niya sa POEA, pero maraming mga mangagawa ang na-di-disappoint
kasi ay kung minsan, nag-rereklamo nga sila wala naman daw aksyon
ang POEA...last week ay hindi online ang POEA kaya hindi ka makapag
complain sa kanila. Ewan lang ngayon kung online na sila, kung hindi
pa rin kailangan ng pumunta ng friends mo sa POEA to complain.
Ang alam ko, kapag i-terminate mo ang worker, employer should pay
the employee his one month salary kahit hindi niya natapos ang kontrata
o yung one month nga. And then, about the place ment fee, ang alam
ko pwede rin yung i-re-imburse please ask assistance from POEA. Halatang
halata na illegal recruitment ang agency na yun, dapat sa mga yan
ay ipinag-kakalat ang kanilang kalokohan para hindi na sila pag-katiwalaan
ng mga tao.
Lately, nag-buo ng task force ang gobyerno laban sa illegal recruitment
pero hinahanap ko ang kanilang mga contact numbers or website, kaso
ay wala pa. Ang alam ko din, maari kang mag-complain sa ating mga
embassy diyan saTaiwan. anong pangalan ng agency? pwede mong isumbong
kung sino man ang mga tao na binayaran niyo, overcharging sila at
kayo ay talagang pinag-samantalahan. - Concerned Guest
Asked
on 07 Sep 2004 10:54 pm
Post subject: no job order and holding of passport
in http://www.ofw-connect.com/OFWForum/viewtopic.php?t=166
"Hay, nag apply ako sa isang agency for factory worker sa taiwan
at pasado naman ako sa interview at exam nila, then nung briefing
na, sinabi na hindi pa alam kung ilan ang mageexam at tatanungin pa
sa employer, diba ibig sabihin nyun eh wala pang job order? tapos
yung passport namin na sa kanila at hindi daw pwede na kunin kailangan
matapos muna lahat... ok lang ba 'to or may mali dito....? salamat
- fsecretario"
Answer 1 -
Kung matagal na kayo nag-exam or nainterview ng agency at wala namang
nangayayari ay kunin niyo na ang passport niyo. Kasi kadalasan, ito
ang nagiging dahilan kaya ang passport mo ay nagagamit ng iba, ngayon
pag ikaw na ang may kailangan ng passport, mag-kakaproblema ka sa
pag-aabroad mo.
Kahit halimbawa na nakakuha ka ng bago (by declaring to DFA that
it was lost), ma-ho-hold ka rin sa immigration lalo na kung merong
eksaktong kapangalan mo ang naka-alis na, dahil it's either you or
yung gumamit ng passport mo ang pag-hihinalaan na fake.
So, yung interview mo and exam was only conducted by the agency?
Parang nakikita ko ay nag-iipon lang sila ng applicant, ngayon kung
sinong employer ang mag-avail ng services nila, saka pa lang i-fo-forward
ang information ng applicant tulad mo. Kasi kung talagang may job
order, dapat ang nag-interview sa'yo ay yung mismong employer or authorized
representative ng foreign company.
Sana nga ay under processing ang application mo, pero to make sure
always inquire to them regularly, dahil kung talagang wala naman ay
mag-try ka na mag-apply sa ibang agency or employer...Vanie
B. OFW Connect
Asked
on Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:30 pm
Re: Talamak mga illegal recruiter sa Zamboanga
in http://www.ofw-connect.com/OFWForum/viewtopic.php?t=145
"Attention POEA or Kung Sino Mang Concerned, Recently,
I was in Malaysia when I met several Pinoy who were a victim of illegal
recruitment from Zamboanga, these people has paid almost 50thousand
and up but no any job offer, so these poor people will just be back
in Phils without any money on their pocket...please check these irregularities...Kim"
Answer 1 -
Dear Kim, Please ask the
victims to visit the Philippine Embassy at 1 Changkat Kia Peng, 50450
KL to file their complaint, so that it can be brought to the attention
of the newly-created Anti-Illegal Recruitment Task Force. Philembassykl
Answer 2 -
to all my kababayan, You may also seek assistance
from our Phil Embassy here in Brunei, just recently they helped some
young Filipinas who were victim of illegal recruitment in Labuan Malaysia.
I've also met several Pinoys who are supposed to be recruited for
other destination like Italy or Japan but ended up here penniless
(initially sent to Labuan first or KK daw) then bec. Brunei is just
an hour away they're running all here and was given a 14 day visit
visa , so they're looking for employment while on a 14 days visit
without visa here in Brunei. Vanie - OFW Connect
Asked
on 23 Jul 2004 11:13 pm
Re: agency na ito for taiwan, asking fee for 80 - 100 thousand!
in http://www.ofw-connect.com/OFWForum/viewtopic.php?p=317#317
"GOOD DAY! ISANG PO AKONG OFW GALING NG TAIWAN. GUSTONG KO PONG
BUMALIK ULIT, PERO ANG PROBLEMA NAPAKALAKI NG PLACEMENT FEE NA SINISINGIL
SA AMIN.MINSAN MAY 100 THOUSAND,80 THOU. PAG HINDI MAGANDA ANG COMPANY
YUN MABABA ANG HINIHINGI NILA. HINDI PO BA ANG SABI NINYO AY DAPAT
KATUMBAS LANG ISANG BUWANG SAHOD ANG PLACEMENT FEE. BAKIT HINDI KAYANG
HULIHIN ITO POEA. KAHIT MAG PANGGAP KA LANG NA APLIKANTE MAHUHULI
MUNA. ANG KATUWIRAN NILA KAYA MALAKI KASI MAY PATONG NA RIN ANG BROKER.
- OFW SA TaIWAN"
Answer 1 -
Kung ang suweldo mo sa Taiwan ay halimbawang P15,000 lang per month,
ito lang talaga dapat ang ibayad mo as placement fee sa agency mo.
Ngayon kung halimbawa na ang ang agency mo na rin ang mag-lalakad
o mag-babayad ng iba mong papeles tulad ng Medical Fee, Air Ticket,
Visa or Passport at iba pang misc fee, kalimitan dinadag-dag ito sa
babayaran mo sa kanila.
Halimbawa, kung ang medical mo ay P5000, air ticket is Php 15,000,
Visa is Php 500, Passport is Php 600, ang total na dapat na maibigay
mo lang ay about Php21,100 (for misc fees) plus Php15,000 ( value
salary mo as placement fee), so should be equals to P36,100. kahit
maging 37,000 pa yan ay okay lang dahil sila naman lahat ng nag-lakad
ng mga papeles mo.
Pero kung ang sisingilin sa yo ay Php80,000 to Php100,000 at ang
suweldo mo naman ay maliit at sa palagay mo ang magagastos mo sa misc
fee ay maliit din, ay MALAMANG ILLEGAL RECRUITMENT YAN... Check agency
here if illegal sa POEA website at http://www.poea.gov.ph/cgi-bin/agSearch.asp
. Kaya tingnan mo mabuti at alamin kung bakit napakalaki ng kailangan
mong bayaran sa kanila...Read more POEA tips here http://www.poea.gov.ph/html/tips.html
, you can complain directly to POEA ang mga agency whom you think,
na nangloko sa inyo...
Ang agency ay hindi dapat maningil ng napakalaki sa job applicant
dahil sila ay binabayaran din ng employer... Sabi ng ibang applicant
na OFW, kaya daw hindi nahuhuli ang mga overcharging na agency na
ito ay dahil may kakutsaba din daw sila sa ibang officer sa POEA...which
is maybe YES maybe NO...bakit nga ba di sila mahuli?
Do you know kahit ang licensed agency, nangloloko pa rin? Mag-babayad
ang applicant ng sobra-sobra pero ang i-i-issue na receipt from agency
ay less sa binayaran? And then, yung ibang agent, ipapasa ka sa agent
pag nakarating ka na halimbawa sa Taiwan, kaya ang mang-yayari, naging
dalawa ang agent mo, kaya mag-babayad ka na naman ng isa pang placement
fee...
At saka anong ibig sabihin nila na "BROKER", ibig sabihin
meron pa silang ibang agent sa Taiwan?....Problema na nila yun, hindi
dapat ikaw na job applicant ang bag-bayad kung meron man silang babayaran
sa "BROKER"nila...Sa agency mo sa Pilipinas ka lang may
responsibilidad which is according to POEA, one month salary mo lang
ang dapat na ibayad sa agency mo na nasa Pilipinas...Baka illegal
agency nga yan... Vanie - OFW Connect
Asked
on 15 Jun 2004 10:49 pm
Post subject: What does an agent really do ?
in http://www.ofw-connect.com/OFWForum/viewtopic.php?t=35
" Ano-ano ho ba talaga ang role ng job placement agent at kailangan
silang bayran ng napakamahal na service fee? - Sally"
Answer 1 -
Travel agent, job placement agent or any other kinds of agent relating
to travel or working overseas has diffrent roles and characteristics.
There's a fake agent, there's an authorized agent but still performs
irregularities, there's unauthorized agent but don't do irregularities
and there's an authorized agent who is really true to their service.
Now why and how much should we pay for their service and do we really
need to pay their service or acquire their service?
Those authorized agent by POEA, the total amount that we need to
pay for their service should only be equal to ONE MONTH salary that
you'll be receiving for the job that was offered to you... That service
fee is for them because they helped you find a job or do misc things
regarding your work overseas...actually they don't only receive payment
from you, if the employer overseas place job ads on their agency here
in Phils, the employer needs to pay them, that's why they have TWO
source of incomes so it's not appropriate and justified to ask too
much service fee from the applicant
Another kind of agent is those who don't have a license, in short
they operate as a normal business person...who only helps you to get
out of the country but don't actually offer you a JOB... First kind
is those who acts as your Authorized person to do all things for you
such as Passport Application, Visa Application etc etc, which is actually
can do by your OWN self...if you need to pay them too much, you should
be careful because if you landed in other country without a prospective
employer...you'll be in trouble!
Other kind is those who really helps you, sometimes they lend you
money...if an agent lends you money even they don't offer you a job
(normally you'll get out of the country as Tourist)...you shouldn't
worry too much...If this is the situation normally they have contacts
in the country where they're sending you...Visa matters is taken care
by someone overseas and even helps you find a job... Take note that
immigration officers will not harm you as long that you hold valid
Passport, VISA or Permit, if they found out that you don't hold any
of these or failed any one of these, you'll be in trouble too.
Other kind of this type of agent are those who don't have SOUL anymore,
they asked overkill charges, process your papers etc but on the day
of your travel you find out that it's ALL FAKE documents!
But how about those authorized agent but incures TOO MUCH placement
fee? They're the second SOUL LESS agent, I know someone who been into
these, he paid too much and even he has all his salary for TWO years
working overseas, he can't be able to pay the OVERKILL placement fee!
- Concerned
